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	<title>Comments on: Otter Tail Corporation&#8217;s (OTTR) DMI Industries To Cut Workforce</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Oksolruc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Oksolruc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China has so much money (American debt) it doesn&#039;t know what to do with it, and it&#039;s building a new coal-powered plant every week (on average). 

China recognizes the problems with pollution and says it is investing in &quot;clean&quot; coal technology.

The fact that China can find enough money to build a power plant / week but using coal, still tells me volumes about efficiency of wind.  

China needs coal-powered plants to back up wind generators which are unpredictable. 

It&#039;s much more than just capital. See status of T. Boone Pickens mega-wind farm in west Texas. I understand it&#039;s dead in the water, but I could be wrong. He estimated in 2006 it would cost $6 billion dollars; in 2007, it went to $10 billion, and in 2008 interview with The Guardian (UK) he admitted it was now up to $12 billion.

Yes, he said credit was a problem, but $12 billion for a project estimated to be $6 billion, again, tells me volumes about the credibility of wind.

By the way, CERN&#039;s chief, this week, June 3, 2009, said wind energy was illusory, and said &quot;we&quot; neeed to move to solar. I find solar even more illusory than wind in the next 50 years.

Yes, 100 years from now we will be using renewables and/or nuclear but the facts seem to speak for themselves.

Everybody wants it (wind) but no one is building it to scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China has so much money (American debt) it doesn&#8217;t know what to do with it, and it&#8217;s building a new coal-powered plant every week (on average). </p>
<p>China recognizes the problems with pollution and says it is investing in &#8220;clean&#8221; coal technology.</p>
<p>The fact that China can find enough money to build a power plant / week but using coal, still tells me volumes about efficiency of wind.  </p>
<p>China needs coal-powered plants to back up wind generators which are unpredictable. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s much more than just capital. See status of T. Boone Pickens mega-wind farm in west Texas. I understand it&#8217;s dead in the water, but I could be wrong. He estimated in 2006 it would cost $6 billion dollars; in 2007, it went to $10 billion, and in 2008 interview with The Guardian (UK) he admitted it was now up to $12 billion.</p>
<p>Yes, he said credit was a problem, but $12 billion for a project estimated to be $6 billion, again, tells me volumes about the credibility of wind.</p>
<p>By the way, CERN&#8217;s chief, this week, June 3, 2009, said wind energy was illusory, and said &#8220;we&#8221; neeed to move to solar. I find solar even more illusory than wind in the next 50 years.</p>
<p>Yes, 100 years from now we will be using renewables and/or nuclear but the facts seem to speak for themselves.</p>
<p>Everybody wants it (wind) but no one is building it to scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, this is more about the difficulty in raising money to build large projects of any kind right now rather than a carbon vs. wind issue. Banks have dramatically reduced lending, investors are not investing as they were, etc. It&#039;s a slow down that effects everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, this is more about the difficulty in raising money to build large projects of any kind right now rather than a carbon vs. wind issue. Banks have dramatically reduced lending, investors are not investing as they were, etc. It&#8217;s a slow down that effects everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Oksol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Oksol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the attention thrown at wind-generated power, and the fact that &quot;everybody&quot; loves wind-generated power, this tells me volumes about the cost effectiveness (or efficiency) of wind power vs hydrocarbon (coal, natural gas). 

For me, in a climate in which the government and the people are &quot;demanding&quot; wind power, and yet we don&#039;t have it, suggests the costs are prohibitive. What am I missing?

This has to be the easiest thing in the world, to build something that everyone wants. No one wants coal-burning generators and yet they continue to be built.  What am I missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the attention thrown at wind-generated power, and the fact that &#8220;everybody&#8221; loves wind-generated power, this tells me volumes about the cost effectiveness (or efficiency) of wind power vs hydrocarbon (coal, natural gas). </p>
<p>For me, in a climate in which the government and the people are &#8220;demanding&#8221; wind power, and yet we don&#8217;t have it, suggests the costs are prohibitive. What am I missing?</p>
<p>This has to be the easiest thing in the world, to build something that everyone wants. No one wants coal-burning generators and yet they continue to be built.  What am I missing?</p>
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